Some bad driving and bad etiquette from a Lime Rock track day (20131116 lrp scda irritation)
I had a great day today with SCDA at Lime Rock in my 2010 Porsche 911 GT3.
Unfortunately, however, the first session of the day included some really
bad driving and also some bad etiquette. Not what I've come to expect from
the Advanced run group.
It may be hard to tell from the video, but the passing rules during these
track days are extremely strict. You're not allowed to pass another car
unless the driver of the car you're overtaking has seen you and has
literally pointed with his/her hand out the window to tell you they've seen
you and on which side they would like you to pass. Not pointing someone by
who is obviously faster than you
(e.g. is behind you now, but wasn't there before) is considered very bad
etiquette, and will get you thrown off the track. Equally bad is
overtaking without a point-by. In both cases, because this isn't a race
but rather just a practice/educational event, this is done for safety
reasons, since passing without point-by as is done in racing (see my
Mazdaspeed Challenge videos) exponentially increases the likelihood of
collisions. I actually got one of these on video during one of those races
where two cars hit while being side-by-side at Lime Rock in turn 1 -- the
same place the Porsche passes me in this video. It's fine and fun to run
this way when everyone is playing by the same rules, but infuriating when
you're observing the rules and others are not.
2:07 - Yellow Lotus doesn't give point-by to a faster black GT3, so the GT3 passes anyway
without permission. The Lotus driver also doesn't point me by, so I wait
for a bit.
3:05 - Blue R32 gives me polite point-by and moves offline in the downhill.
This is a very polite move, thanks to this good driver!
3:28 - I catch a black Corvette, and he catches black Mercedes C63 AMG who
isn't pointing anyone by. We're now both stuck behind the Mercedes.
4:16 - This would be the obvious place for the Mercedes to point us by.
But there's no point-by.
4:20 - Instead, the Corvette passes the Mercedes without a point-by. The
Mercedes brakes abruptly before the 6 board and I'm afraid I'm going to
rear-end him, so I move over to the right, being careful not to pass or
present myself at his side without a point-by (which I still haven't
4:38 - The Mercedes takes an erratic line through Turn 2 and brakes in the
middle of the corner. I again take evasive maneuvers to avoid rear-ending
him. I'm now beginning to wonder what is the matter with this person.
Either he doesn't see me or he thinks he is faster than I am.
5:13 - By this point, I'm keeping some distance going into the corners to
avoid an accident, because this person is driving so unpredictably (braking
very hard for fast turns, etc). I go into west bend very slowly.
5:19 - I start to flash my lights to see if I can get his attention.
Again, I need to be very careful not to rear-end the Mercedes coming out of
the downhill. He continues obliviously along the main straight as I flash
my brights very excitedly.
5:40 - A guy in a Radical has had enough and decides to pass us both
without permission from either of us. As I go into turn 1, I get pushed to
the outside, driver's left, by a black and orange Porsche which has dived
in and passed me without a point-by. The Mercedes continues on his crazy
line and both cars pass him without a point-by as well. Blue flags are
out, but the guy in the Mercedes continues obliviously on his way.
6:08 - I try honking my horn to see if that will help. As I come down the
hill, I decide to pull into the pits because I have had enough.
6:37 - Inexplicably, our hero also decides to pull into the pits. I signal
to the cars behind me that I'm going to stay on the track, and two more
cars pass me without a point-by from me (although perhaps reasonably so,
since I had appeared to be heading towards the pits).
Now that the track has been cleared of this particular menace, I now have
to go work my way through traffic again, which you can see in the video
titled "2010 Porsche GT3 at Lime Rock Park with SCDA 1/1 (20131116 lrp scda
Skip Barber Lime Rock Crash Kenton Koch
This is onboard Kenton Koch. This is round 6 of the Skip Barber Summer
series and I was starting 6th. on the start i fell back a couple positions
but then gained them back and once it started raining and the track was
getting damper and damper I started to get faster and faster. I had potential for a podium for
sure and maybe even a win. But I got caught in the wrong place at the wrong
time. On to the next one, to Road America.
Overtaking etiquette in iRacing
This is a video demonstrating some overtaking situations. It's a supplement
to the article linked above. I suggest you read it before watching.
1st Skip Barber Race LRP 2011 Part 1
FAST Laps Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9REhn6pH2A
- My first Skip Barber Regional Race (starts at 2:55) at Lime Rock Park in
June of 2011
- 25 Lap Race
- Car number 72
- Coming out of turn 2 my car randomly lost power, but i managed to somehow
get it re-fired after falling back to last place (16th position). The
instructors said there may have been a problem with the key connection to
- Start Position: 9th
- Finish Position: 8th
- 1st place finish in the rookie class
- Driver: Chris Pasquarella
- Editor: Jon Pasquarella
- Footage credit to Helix In-Car Camera
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpBuffS4oBg&feature=plcp
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Close Call at Lime Rock Park 05-30-2013
Having a nice morning lapping with SCDA at Lime Rock, minding my own
business, when things get a little tricky.., about two and a half minutes
in,keep your eyes on the little green car two cars ahead of me, especially
when it goes into the uphill right-hander.
skip barber going faster
From the skip barber racing school, learn how to drive a race car.
De la escuela de skip barber aprenda a manejar un auto de competición.
Clean, Drive, Race: Lime Rock Park
This is my favorite thing to do on the weekends. Clean my car, drive with
my friends, and go to the race track. This is a MUST if you are a car guy.
BMW M3 Lime Rock Park
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Behind The Wheel: 2013 BMW M3 Lime Rock Park Edition
BMW has a history of using racetrack names for their paint colors:
Marrakesh Brown, Laguna Seca Blue and Dakar Yellow. But the 2013 BMW M3
Lime Rock Park Edition ($80,000, as tested) is the first time they've used
one on an actual car and the first time the iconic track has lent its name
to a carmaker — and quite a car, indeed. The standard set up brings an M
6-speed manual transmission, Competition Package and Fire Orange carbon
fiber bits to the exterior; the inside is treated to black cloth trimmed in
Napa Leather and a flat-bottomed Anthracite Alcantara-covered steering
wheel. The driver, meanwhile, is treated to palpable joy all the way up to
an 8,300 RPM redline.
Read the full article here: http://gearpatrol.com/?p=79274
Tangerine Racing Crash at Lime Rock
2009 SCCA National at Lime Rock Park, Race #1. Tangerine Racing Porsche 914
gets loose cresting the Uphill Turn and crashes into a parked race car on
the last lap of the race.