1985 Pontiac Fiero Sport Coupe Walkaround + Update
I walk around my (grandfather's) 1985 Pontiac Fiero Sport Coupe that we moved from it's "resting place" to where it is in the video. This is mainly to show my friends this beautiful car, and to show the amount of work that I am going to have to put into the car from 15 years of neglect.
The odometer shows 56, 841 Miles, which for a 25 year old car is great, but it hasn't been driven all those 25 years. It was last driven for a week in 1995, and has been sitting ever since.
Okay so here's the update! Sometime after I did this video, my grandfather and I pulled the car onto the paved driveway and parking pad in front of the house. When we moved it, we found that the brake calipers had seized up again, so we kinda ended up dragging it rather than pulling it. We looked at the frame of the car with it on paved surface. The rear of the frame is in terrible rusted shape with many holes, so we may not be able to use the whole car. As much as I want to see this particular car working again, I just don't think that this can be done. The engine would probably have to be rebuilt from not having fluids drained. We can however find another 85 model (would prefer to keep it an 85) and swap the body panels between the two cars. But, with me being unemployed, doing anything with this car is far from the first thing on my mind. Since then, the car has been moved twice more, and it now sits next to where it was in this video.
My 1985 Pontiac Fiero
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Pontiac Fiero NHTSA Frontal Crash Test
This is one of the original crash test videos for the Pontiac Fiero. In
this video, dummies were restrained with the factory seatbelts.
"Fieros are deathtraps!" Not hardly......
Many people think that the Pontiac Fiero is an unsafe vehicle due to its
small size. It turns out that the Fiero was the safest vehicle ever tested
by the NHTSA without airbags. It was the second safest vehicle on the road
in 1985, second to the Volvo DL Wagon. The DL had airbags. Even by today's
standards, the Fiero still rivals many newer vehicles on the road today.
The methods of testing are exactly the same in 2010 as they were back in
1979 when NHTSA began testing cars. Cars are tested by impacting a solid
barrier at 35 MPH.
The Fiero received a 5 star crash rating for both driver and passenger. A
5-star rating means a 10% or lower chance of serious injury. So 5-star
means the same now as it meant 25 years ago.
Here are a few comparisons:
1984 Pontiac Fiero
Head Injury Criterion: 356.5/308.6
Chest Deceleration (G): 30.9/29.9
Femur Load 840/800 800/740
2003 Cadillac Deville
Head Injury Criterion: 826/507
Chest Deceleration (G): 75/58
Femur Load: 825/1297 875/848
2007 Buick Lacrosse
Head Injury Criterion: 374/259
Chest Deceleration (G): 43/42
Femur Load: 1099/1112 909/405
2009 Ford Focus
Head Injury Criterion: 521/389
Chest Deceleration (G): 40/40
Femur Load: 1133/1652 1138/968
As you can see, the 1980s Pontiac is still one of the safer cars on the
road today. The Fiero is as good as or better than many of today's vehicles
that have airbags.
The Fiero is also very stable. The Fiero received a Static Stability
Factor, or Rollover Resistance rating, of 1.47. This equates to a 5-star
Even if you are unfortunate enough to get into a rollover accident, the
Fiero excels in safety once again with its incredibly strong roof
structure. According to the NHTSA, the Fiero was tested by inverted drop
and roof crush testing. In the inverted drop test, the Fiero, along with
cars like the Ford F150 and Plymouth Laser were turned over and dropped on
their roofs. The Fiero scored best with 8.3 cm crush on the a-pillar and
3.8 cm on the B-pillar. The Ford F-150 had the worst rating with 42.5cm
crush on a-pillar and 40.6cm on the B-pillar. The Plymouth Laser actually
had a slightly better rating than Fiero for B pillar with 3.2cm crush.
In another publication, NHTSA tested cars roofs by crushing them with a
steel plate and hydraulic ram. In the example given, the Chevrolet S10 had
the worst rating with 5320 lbs roof strength, while the Fiero has the
highest rating with 9909 lbs of roof strength. This equates to 3.53 roof
strength to weight ratio, complying with even the most recent roof strength
requirement of 3.00:1 strength ratio. It is kind of funny how the Pontiac
Fiero is still meeting many of the most modern crash test requirements
without even frontal airbags.....
Now for Death rate. Death rate is a number given to cars to reflect the
likelihood of death in any particular vehicle. The Fiero, along with Camaros and Firebirds,
happen to have a very high death rate. A high death rate doesn't mean the
car is unsafe, it just means that this type of car is going to be driven faster and more recklessly,
increasing the chance of an accident, which in turn, increases the chance
of serious injury or death. If you hit a concrete wall at 80MPH with no
seatbelts on, I don't care what car you are in, you will be killed. The
human body just simply cannot take that kind of G load and people need to
stop driving like idiots. Please comment. I would like to see your reaction
to this and hear some of your crash stories. Please drive responsibly.
Video courtesy of NHTSA, NCAP and Calspan Crash Testing Center.
Other vehicle data from http://www.safercar.gov
Fiero crash test data from
Fiero frontal crush data from
Fiero Static Stability Factor data from
Fiero Death rate data from http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/809004.PDF
Fiero Roof Crush data from
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Pontiac Fiero GT--D&M Motorsports Walk Around Review
Pontiac Fiero GT Video Review Presented by D&M Motorsports.
The Pontiac Fiero is a mid-engined sports car that was built by the Pontiac
division of General Motors from 1984 to 1988. The Fiero—meaning "proud"
in Italian and "wild", "fierce", or "ferocious" in Spanish—was designed
by George Milidrag and Hulki Aldikacti as a Pontiac sports car. The Fiero
was the first two-seater Pontiac since the 1926 to 1938 coupes, and also
the first and only mass-produced mid-engine sports car by a U.S.
manufacturer. Many technologies incorporated in the Fiero design such as
plastic body panels were radical for its time. Alternative names considered
for the car were Sprint, P3000, Pegasus, Fiamma, Sunfire, and Firebird
XP. The Fiero 2M4 (2-seat, Mid-engine, 4-cylinder) was on
Car and Driver magazine's Ten Best list for 1984. The 1984 Fiero was the
Official Pace Car of the Indianapolis 500 for 1984, beating out the new
1984 Chevrolet Corvette for the honor.
370,168 Fieros were produced over the relatively short production run of
five years; by comparison, 163,000 Toyota MR2s were sold in its first five
years. At the time, its reputation suffered from criticisms over
performance, reliability and safety issues. Today however, compared to less
adventurous attempts at two-seaters such as the Ford EXP, the unique style
of the Fiero compared to other American cars has left it a cult following
as a collectible car. It remains a popular chassis for rebodies and
Already selling the Corvette, General Motors management and accountants
were opposed to investing in a second two-seater sports car. But in 1979,
during the oil crisis, management saw a market opportunity for a
fuel-efficient sporty commuter car, and design work on the Fiero commenced.
To this end, it was fitted with a fuel efficient version of GM's 2.5 L
four-cylinder "Iron Duke" engine capable of 27 mpg-US (8.7 L/100 km; 32
mpg-imp) in the city and 40 mpg-US (5.9 L/100 km; 48 mpg-imp) on the
highway with the economy-ratio transmission option. These figures are U.S.
Environmental Protection Agency test-circuit results, published by Pontiac,
and confirmed from multiple sources. It was impressive mileage for a
2.5-liter engine of the period, and still good by today's standards, but
the three-speed automatic reduced highway mileage to only 32 mpg-US (7.4
L/100 km; 38 mpg-imp). With respect to fuel economy, the Fiero would appeal
to a market niche for which the Corvette with its V8 engine was unsuitable.
A mid-engine layout was chosen as a way to reduce both aerodynamic drag and
vehicle weight to improve fuel efficiency, and also for its handling,
traction, and braking benefits. The sports car potential of the mid-engine
layout was not fully realized when the Fiero debuted. In line with its
market position, the tires, brakes, and some suspension components were
carried over from other GM economy cars (like the Chevrolet Citation and
Chevrolet Chevette) so the Fiero could be priced appropriately. As a
result, the handling and cornering abilities of the initial Fiero were
merely on par with other contemporary sporty coupes (Road & Track 1985).
The public had high expectations for the Fiero with its mid-engine layout
and futuristic styling, which resembles more exotic mid-engine sports cars
costing much more. While initially garnering good reviews for its handling
(Motor Trend 1984), the Fiero soon received disappointing reviews, as the
automotive critics expected higher performance from a mid-engine
two-seater. Despite the critical press, the Fiero sold extremely well and
Pontiac operated three shifts at the factory during 1984, and could not
keep up with initial demand.
The sharing of suspension components with other GM cars meant the rear
suspension and powertrain was almost identical to that of the Chevrolet
Citation and Pontiac Phoenix; the Fiero even included rear tie rod ends
attached to a "steering knuckle", although these were hard-mounted to the
engine cradle and only used for maintaining the rear tire alignment. The
front suspension was derived from the Chevrolet Chevette, and Chevette
enthusiasts found that they could upgrade their undersized front brakes and
rotors using Fiero parts.
By 1985, the oil crisis was a thing of the past and demand developed for a
Fiero having more engine power and better sports car performance. Pontiac
responded by introducing the GT model which included upgraded suspension
tuning, wider tires, and a V6 engine having 43 horsepower (32 kW) more than
the base four-cylinder. In 1986, the GT model was restyled to look even